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		<title>AOL AWOL</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As evinced by my last post, I&#8217;ve been mucking about with dialup lately. I&#8217;ve resurrected my TOAST.net account and run a few tests on it. Honestly, with the included accelerator, I could bear using the service if it meant the difference between $50 satellite and $8 dialup (pay by year). I&#8217;d have to go into [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As evinced by my last post, I&#8217;ve been mucking about with dialup lately. I&#8217;ve resurrected my TOAST.net account and run a few tests on it. Honestly, with the included accelerator, I could bear using the service if it meant the difference between $50 satellite and $8 dialup (pay by year). I&#8217;d have to go into town to do any big downloads, but I&#8217;d do that with sat internet anyway. You can&#8217;t run VoIP over satellite so the $50-to-$8 comparison stands.</p>
<p>Anyhow, after trying TOAST.net I thought &#8220;who are the big players in the dialup industry?&#8221; Here&#8217;s the list I came up with:</p>
<p>1) AOL<br />
2) NetZero/Juno (the former has more access numbers)<br />
3) EarthLink/PeoplePC</p>
<p>There are other dialup ISPs, but they pretty much are just the same as TOAST.net, albeit with different pricing, possibly a shorter list of access numbers and a different domain on the end of your e-mail address. As such, I&#8217;m sticking with TOAST.net, which I&#8217;ve had good luck with, for my emergency dialup/every-once-in-a-while newsgroup access/branded e-mail needs. Even Earthlink and NetZero share the 729-1999 number, and thus probably that USAWide backbone network and dialup performance.</p>
<p>However I was curious about AOL. From what I&#8217;ve gathered, they&#8217;re the only company in my area that actually has a different phone number for dialup access than 830-729-1999. As such, their service would be running on different equipment, with possibly different performance characteristics.</p>
<p><span id="more-240"></span>So I ordered a $9.99 limited-support unlimited-access dialup account from &#8220;The New AOL&#8221;. The company still sells a $25.90 (!?!) package that includes God-knows-what addons and granny-proof support, but I just wanted to know how the connection fared. My new e-mail address is ianlittman91@aol.com; iansltx (my usual screen name), ianlittman and a few other of my first-choice screen names were unavailable, something that has never happened to me anywhere else.</p>
<p>After dropping $9.99 for a month of &#8216;net access, I proceeded to download AOL 9.0 Optimized (or what the heck ever it&#8217;s called) over my broadband connection. The software was obviously designed for being distributed on a CD; the thing must have weighed in at 200MB! Pulling that software in over dialup would&#8217;ve taken me nearly fourteen hours, assuming I has a 32 kbps connection and wasn&#8217;t doing anything else with said connection. INSANE!</p>
<p>Now AOL does have a version 9.1 in beta that&#8217;s about one-third the size (or at least it seemed that way; AOL&#8217;s proprietary downloader doesn&#8217;t tell you such things) but, compared with an all-inclusive 4.5-megabyte installer for TOAST.net AOL&#8217;s installer is patently ridiculous. Alternately, you can find your phone number and connect with Windows&#8217; own dialer for a zero-KB download. Last I heard that doesn&#8217;t work with AW&#8230;er&#8230;AOL.</p>
<p>So once the download and installation process was done (which took nearly as long as installing Windows 7, mind you), I turned off wireless on the computer and dialed into AOL. After a bit, the modem synced with AOL and I was online&#8230;ish.</p>
<p>You see, apparently the computers on AOL&#8217;s end are downright sucky. I&#8217;d wager the AOL number I connected to was running off a fractional T1 with too many users on a phone line that had been chewed on by varmints of multiple types. You wouldn&#8217;t know that by the connection latency, which shows off the AOL Transit Data Network (ATDN for short), but the connection was actually more sluggish than satellite. Which reminds me, I need to uninstall the crapware when I&#8217;m done with their month of service; I think it&#8217;s slowing my computer down.</p>
<p>So here are the traceroutes. As I said above, they look decent. Too bad download speeds are around 19.2k and pages take positively forever to load. In case you&#8217;re wondering, I wan&#8217;t doing ANYTHING in tha background while the traceroute was being run, though I suspect AOL 9.0 was.</p>
<pre>Tracing route to softlayer.com [66.228.118.53] over a maximum of 30 hops:</pre>
<pre>1 769 ms    206 ms    197 ms    ipt-ntca04.dial.aol.com [207.200.122.4]</pre>
<pre>2 203 ms    206 ms    198 ms    iptfarmna-ntc-sw0-v3.net.aol.com [207.200.120.30]</pre>
<pre>3 1495 ms    1586 ms    428 ms    wc1-ntc-A0.net.aol.com [172.24.20.11]</pre>
<pre>4 220 ms    205 ms    206 ms    dar1-ntc-s0-1-0.atdn.net [66.185.142.117]</pre>
<pre>5 2006 ms    1681 ms    205 ms    pop1-sjg-p10-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.63]</pre>
<pre>6 195 ms    196 ms    221 ms    so5-1-0-2488M.br1.JC2.gblx.net [64.208.110.93]</pre>
<pre>7 1926 ms    1753 ms    776 ms    te1-1.cer03.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [64.215.81.2]</pre>
<pre>8 242 ms    244 ms    245 ms    po3.dar02.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.118.211]</pre>
<pre>9 2084 ms    244 ms    245 ms    po2.slr01.dal01.softlayer.com [66.228.118.142]</pre>
<pre>10 242 ms    253 ms    252 ms    www.softlayer.com [66.228.118.53]</pre>
<pre>Tracing route to google.com [74.125.67.100] over a maximum of 30 hops</pre>
<pre>1 206 ms    196 ms    198 ms    ipt-ntca04.dial.aol.com [207.200.122.4]</pre>
<pre>2 196 ms    190 ms    197 ms    iptfarmna-ntc-sw0-v3.net.aol.com [207.200.120.30]</pre>
<pre>3 186 ms    199 ms    196 ms    wc2-ntc-A0.net.aol.com [172.24.20.12]</pre>
<pre>4 186 ms    197 ms    198 ms    dar2-ntc-s0-1-0.atdn.net [66.185.142.165]</pre>
<pre>5 189 ms    196 ms    197 ms    dar1-ntc-s0-2-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.10]</pre>
<pre>6 187 ms    555 ms    189 ms    pop1-sjg-p10-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.53]</pre>
<pre>7 188 ms    189 ms    198 ms    google.atdn.net [66.185.150.94]</pre>
<pre>8 189 ms    196 ms    197 ms    72.14.239.250</pre>
<pre>9 259 ms    253 ms    261 ms    209.85.249.140</pre>
<pre>10 252 ms   269 ms    253 ms    72.14.239.131</pre>
<pre>11   *      975 ms    269 ms    64.233.174.46</pre>
<pre>12 276 ms   277 ms    277 ms    gw-in-f100.google.com [74.125.67.100]</pre>
<p>As you can see, AOL doesn&#8217;t appear to peer with any of the &#8220;big guys&#8221; in Dallas, which I find odd. But hey, you take what you can get, right? Yes, but you have a bit more selection in dialup-land ISP-wise than if you want broadband. Again, while the traceroutes above are decent, I would wholeheartedly recommend you go with a sane dialup provider like TOAST.net, then download the AOL software yourself if you must have their keyword-ridden content stable. You&#8217;ll end up with a much more reliable connection from my experience, and you can uninstall their crapware without losing internet access. Plus, it doesn&#8217;t cost more and may well cost less than AWOL&#8230;erm&#8230;AOL. No wonder they&#8217;re a dying company who wants to get out of the dialup biz.</p>
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